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Poster: vapors Date: Aug 26, 2010 6:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phish doing the Dead..uh oh.

Hey thanks for diverting me to that site as I spent a bit of time there. The sound quality of 5/3 Scarlet was pretty poor, but other stuff I checked out was nice. These Dead songs were played in the very early years and surely of little interest to non phans. They played Scarlet three times – back in year one, 12/2/83 in the UV cafeteria, next at Nectar’s 12/1/84 (followed by Fire) and then twice once more 5/3 & 5/19/85. Eyes was played 11/3/83 (along with Bertha), 12/1/84, and at the 5/3/85 show.

The Other One was only played that once. Cold Rain and Viola Lee Blues on 9/17/99. And on 4/1/86 they played Help/Slip/(AC/DC Bag).

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 26, 2010 7:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phish doing the Dead..uh oh.

I've never been able to get into Phish. Not that I haven't tried; it just never seems very engaging to me. But a few months ago I was in a store and heard some great music; I asked the clerk what was playing, and she said ... Phish! It was kind of jazzy-bluegrassy-jammy. So I went back and tried to listen to Phish again, but didn't hear the same sound. Maybe she was wrong, or maybe there's a particular album or something that was on? Any tips from Phish heads?

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Poster: WillCo Date: Aug 27, 2010 1:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Phish doing the Dead..uh oh.

I got into Phish by trying a compilation CD called Stash; loads of great tunes and grooves (though I agree with other posters about lyrics).

Since then my favourite is their official release (vol 04) from a Japan show 2000-06-14 - especially disk 2's dreamy jams.

Oh, and have you tried Umphrey's McGee? Try this one, where Joshua Redman guests: http://www.archive.org/details/UM2004-02-18

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Poster: utopian Date: Aug 26, 2010 8:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: doing the Dead..my favorite cover is- Sneaking Sally through the Alley

Phish have gone through many many marked evolutions, or stages of progression as a band. A beautiful coalescing occurred in fall of 97 into most of 98 where as many consider a ripe time.

Sitting down last night for dinner with a real fan who has seen many complete tours, he alluded they are playing better than ever in 2009 and presently especially 2010.

I listened to some of last years gorge and redrocks shows and would probably agree they are playing better than ever.

Their lyrics have never 'spoke' to me, but i do like the jams in between the words.

Peace



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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 26, 2010 8:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: doing the Dead..my favorite cover is- Sneaking Sally through the Alley

In what little listening I've done, I've thought the lyrics were pretty lame. Maybe the jams are indeed better; I liked that I heard in the shop, anyway, enough to ask who it was. I'd like to know more about the different "jam bands." Maybe I'd actually like some. I'm pretty out of touch, LOL.

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Poster: advokat Date: Aug 26, 2010 8:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: doing the Dead..my favorite cover is- Sneaking Sally through the Alley

Phish = Up with People on Patchouli

That nauseous feeling you get when coming onto mushrooms with nothing to break through the sluggish fatigue...



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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 26, 2010 8:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: doing the Dead..my favorite cover is- Sneaking Sally through the Alley

Phish = Up with People on Patchouli

Just when I'm trying to be open-minded, someone has to crack me up ...


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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Aug 26, 2010 11:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: doing the Dead..my favorite cover is - Loving Cup

if you're looking for profound phish lyrics, you won't find them anywhere.

the early phish songs were either part of trey's Gamehendge cycle (his senior musical thesis about the fantasy world of Gamehendge), were simply vehicles for jamming, or inside jokes of the band (hence the silly lyrics). the early phish philosophy was basically "lyrics aren't important."

later they made attempts at writing something a little more profound, and while the newer phish albums have stuff more closely resembling songs (some pretty catchy i might add) their songwriting skills are still fairly amateurish.

i'm not sure what you heard in that music shop Althea, but one album i could suggest is probably their most eclectic work, "A Picture Of Nectar." be warned there are plenty of silly lyrics, however.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 27, 2010 2:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: doing the Dead..my favorite cover is - Loving Cup

Well, it was actually a camping store, and the staff just play stuff from their ipods. So far all I know it could have been something not on an album. Or the person who said it was Phish could be wrong. But I'm interested in learning more about stuff that has a Dead-like sound (or approach) ... I'm pretty embarrasingly out of it, rock music-wise. (If rock is the right word. It doesn't quite sound right.) Tend to listen to bluegrass, classical, older jazz and older rock, but would be interested to know more about what the Dead inspired. That is, if it's any good :-)

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Poster: Edsel Date: Aug 27, 2010 8:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: doing the Dead..my favorite cover is - Loving Cup

camping store eh ?
could the clerk have said "Fish On"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31e5UGAnOjc&;feature=related

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Aug 27, 2010 2:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: doing the Dead..my favorite cover is - Loving Cup

you should definitely check out Widespread Panic then. they have a lot of dead influence and they are great musicians. and they can write a song or two, lol.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Aug 26, 2010 8:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: doing the Dead..my favorite cover is- Scent of a Mule

I can't pretend to be at all expert on Phish, even though I listened to 2 CDs worth. I find their technical excellence and precision fascinating, but the lyrics typically seem like nonsense. A beautiful house with no furniture. No soul.

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